Quote of the Day… 7/24/08

“If men of wisdom and knowledge, of moderation and temperance, of patience, fortitude and perseverance, of sobriety and true republican simplicity of manners, of zeal for the honour of the Supreme Being and the welfare of the commonwealth; if men possessed of these other excellent qualities are chosen to fill the seats of government, we may expect that our affairs will rest on a solid and permanent foundation.” —Samuel Adams

SideBear: And therein lies the problem and the only answer to it is…TERM LIMITS.

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5 Responses to “Quote of the Day… 7/24/08”

  1. on 24 Jul 2008 at 8:48 am DocNeaves

    Term limits means when you finally DO get a good one, he’s gone with nothing you can do about it. Personally, this is America, and if we don’t like them, we should throw them out. The reason we don’t is because half of America won’t go vote, and half of those who do won’t educate themselves and vote responsibly. This allows those who wish to be puppets to fall under the spell of communism, an attack which has lasted over a hundred years. Only through involvement and education can we keep our country free. Making a senator or congressmen leave after one term is nothing for the machine, they will just put another one in his/her place. But you vote in someone who’s on the side of the people, and they don’t even have to campaign against him/her, they can just wait them out, and outvote them while they’re there.

  2. on 24 Jul 2008 at 2:38 pm dadinseattle

    Term limits are a must! That doesn’t mean a single term.
    When you look at most of the maneuvering you see it is done in the committees. These are assigned by seniority and allow some of our least principled politicians to dictate what will or will not even make it to a debate. The damage being done to this country is being done by people in these positions in Congress and the Supreme Court.

  3. on 24 Jul 2008 at 4:10 pm DocNeaves

    So, you think the primary qualification for someone to lead this country and serve in Congress is that they have NO experience doing so? It seems you equate experience with corruption, when it’s really just corruption that’s the problem, not the experience. Sort of like cutting off your leg to get rid of an ingrown toenail. And you can’t show me where you’d get any better candidate picking no experience every four years, since “the machine” candidates, the ones you’re trying to avoid, are the ones best suited to constant turnover, since they are PROFESSIONAL CANDIDATE/VICTIM MONGERERS, or did you forget?

  4. on 25 Jul 2008 at 1:51 am dadinseattle

    The second sentence in my above retort discounts your no experience argument. Experience does count. My objection would be to representatives serving more than four terms and senators serving more than three. I do believe there is an insidious change that takes place in some of these people that locks in arrogant and egotistical views and doesn’t allow room for new growth, much as a rope will slowly girdle around the tree trunk until it becomes completely encased and cannot be removed. Though the rope at one time served to help stake the tree thereby supporting it, it now works to slowly but surely kill the tree as the cambium it choked off. The tree receives neither water nor nutrient and it dies.
    The 110th Congress is an apt example of an ineffective body that is mired in self importance but has accomplished very little.

    My point is a very few are allowed to control too much and keep making it worse through rules and procedures thereby denying Americans a truly representative government.

  5. on 25 Jul 2008 at 10:20 am DocNeaves

    exactly…and my point is, I agree with you, the rules are the problem, but let’s change the rules, not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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